Episode 105 // Civility is Overrated

Things in America are a bit of mess, but somehow taking a stand against hate seems to bother people. Sure, we're all for civility when it makes sense. But that time is not now. The place is not America. And we see no reason to be civil when so many are being treated without any civility at all.

Episode 104 // Shout Outs!

Long overdue Patreon shout outs! Thanks everyone! And a special shoutout to Leah who happened to recognize John in wild. Also, a little bit on body glitter, outdoor music festivals, and that we're absolutely okay with you saying "Hi!" if you see either of us out and about.

Episode 103 // Children. In. Cages.

It’s 2018 and the United States is forcibly separating children from their parents and then holding them in makeshift camps. We don't have a solution, but this needs to be talked about nonstop. This IS America, but it doesn’t need to be.

Fortunately, 24 hours after we recorded, Trump signed an executive order stopping the separation of families, but this mess continues as there's no word on how those separated will be reunited. This will forever be a scar on America, and there is nothing we can do to every truly fix the damage done to those most affected.

Episode 102 // Destigmatize

Last week, the world lost Kate Spade and Anthony Bourdain. As a result, mental health was again the center of conversation, and we thought it was time to again address the topic. We all need to keep talking about it. We all need to be checking in. We all need to remove the stigma.

The National Suicide Prevention Hotline: 1-800-273-8255

Episode 101 // Life Lessons

Promotion crises, teen hormones, and  preparing for summer. The end of 8th grade is a pretty significant transition, and here we are. OH MY GOD. And it’s summer break already? How does this even happen?

Episode 100 // Accents Etc.

British accents, miles of wandering, and a little (SPOILER) Gilmore tangent at the end. This is a big milestone - Episode 100! - so it only seems right that we stay true to our spiraling roots.

Episode 99 // London Spiral

Travel, planning, and taking a diet on the road. That's sort of the focus. Maybe. Then again, we also touch on tea, colon surgery, and "2001: A Space Odyssey." Yes, it's a little shorter than normal, but we cover some ground.

Episode 97 // The Entertainers

As parents, we would kill to feel genuine boredom, but our kids don’t exactly share our interest in doing nothing. And they expect us to overcome these lackluster moments for them. Somehow, go, go, go and then go some more has become the norm. What happened to— oh my god Marlo you can figure it out yourself!

Episode 96 // Be Grateful, Damnit!

Parenting is perfect and wonderful and there isn't ever a time at which you should express exhaustion or frustration. AMEN. At least that's what the concern trolls want to make sure we all know. But the truth is, parenting is hard, sometimes your kids are terrible, and it's okay to admit defeat and/or disgruntled triumph. Even if everything still sucks. 

Episode 95 // Fair Isn't Equal

Inclusion is critical to education, but Heather and John aren't experts in that area, so John's friend Emily is joining the spiral. Emily is a specialist in early childhood inclusion and a single parent to a son with special needs, and all parents and educators are going to want to hear what she has to say.

Episode 93 // Helmets and Heartbreak

Pain in every direction. That's part of having kids. You're forced to relive old injuries while also anticipating the pain that is yet to come. And you have to cope with all of that while working around that damn doctor's appointment you scheduled six months ago.

Episode 92 // Close the Rings

Break is over, Heather’s deadline is looming, time is again compressing, and John’s life is controlled by a watch. On the bright side, Marlo’s illness passed quickly, Lexton’s birthday was seamless, and free-range children are the new cage-free eggs. So, normal week.

Episode 91 // Restorative Justice

Time to talk about racism. Again? ALWAYS. And this week we're joined by Kelly Wickham Hurst, founder of Being Black at School, to talk about education and what it's like for those living in the margins. Is Kelly a "policy wonk?" Damn straight she is, but she's also so much more. You'll notice that John stayed pretty quiet for this episode because sometimes it's best to give others the floor.

Kelly's personal website

Kelly on twitter

Being Black at School

Episode 88 // Tanlines for Toddlers

In 2012, Tanlines (Jesse Cohen and Eric Emm) released their first album and Heather was hooked. She told John to listen and he soon had the album on repeat. Eventually, John's son followed suit. Now, the electronic/indie duo's newest EP, "Presents", puts a very Tanlines spin on classic kid's songs and Jesse joins the spiral to talk about the new album, music, identity, self awareness, and parenting. Oh. And the cuteness of babies.


Hello, dear listener! And sometimes not so dear, depends on how you're feeling on any given day and whether or not you think we have complained one too many times about our children's inability to throw away a goddamn tissue. We promise to be more vigilant about that. Maybe. Probably. We never know where our conversations are going to end up, only that no one ever gets hurt. Usually. Sometimes Heather can tell that her mother has listened to a specific part of a certain episode by how many times she drops off Chick-Fil-A for the girls unannounced WHICH ONLY MAKES THINGS WORSE, MOTHER.

Anyway! We've launched our PATREON but haven't really publicized it yet because of already scheduled guests. Don't miss this week's episode (our guest had Heather audibly twitterpated). We'll talk a lot more about PATREON next week, but if you're interested in helping us offset some of the production and hosting costs or even just donating because you like how we complain about our children's inability to throw away a goddamn tissue, mosey on over here.

Again, we'll get into greater detail about all of it including expanded tiers and rewards soon. Stay tuned!

Episode 87 // Beyond Paid Leave

Paid leave is important. So is supporting new parents. The Center for Parental Leave Leadership (CPLL) is helping companies and employees successfully navigate parental leave to improve the experience for everyone involved. Dr. Amy Beacom, Founder and CEO of CPLL, joins the spiral to talk about how they're making a difference. 

Website: http://cplleadership.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/centerforparentalleaveleadership

Twitter: https://twitter.com/cplleadership

Amy's Email: amy at cplleadership dot com